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		<title>Comment on Drupal Hack: Getting Pages and Images from Different Servers by Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=291&#038;cpage=1#comment-3548</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I&#039;m a student of UNN.As far as I,m concerned technology is one of my best interest.I really love what your website is doing.Keep it up! Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I&#8217;m a student of UNN.As far as I,m concerned technology is one of my best interest.I really love what your website is doing.Keep it up! Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GPS Accuracy repeated tests with and without internet access by Neil Dewhurst</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=585&#038;cpage=1#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Dewhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I just came across your GPS accuracy test, and thought that I should warn you: The A-GPS function allows the GPS satelite almanac to be pre-loaded via Internet. There may also be an update to the real-time-clock (using NTP via Internet, this is optional).

The net result is that the GPS receiver will be able to immediately interpret the signal from any satelites that it can receive, knowing already there exact positioning information. So that there is no need to first download this &quot;satelite almanac&quot; information (from the best available signal) - which is the normal &quot;cold start&quot; procedure. Having a (reasonably) accurate time can also help, marginally, although of course the GPS receiver will end up calculating the really-really-really-accurate time during its &quot;fix&quot; procedure.

So the bottom line is: using A-GPS should drastically reduce the time-to-first-fix, meaning that the time-to-fix will be both short and predictable. Thats all. The accuracy is really effected, at least not once the fix has maintained for a short time already.

Other systems allow to improve on GPS accuracy, both by correcting actual positioning errors of the GPS satelites themselves, and also with some information about environmental propogation (air conditions), although this is locally variable and so the relevance of those propgation informations depends on proximity to the correction source.

DGPS (Differential GPS) uses ground based long-wave transmitters to broadcast correction information around a local area (ocean coastline typically), meaning that a seperate and very different antenna is required (large physically, due to &quot;long&quot; radio waves, as there are no miracles involved).

WAAS (Wide Area Argmentation System =&gt; North American) and EGNOS (European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service =&gt; European, like it says) relay the correction information via geo-synchronous satelites, and thus also use similar frequency bands to the GPS satelites themselves, meaning that WAAS-enabled and/or EGNOS-enabled GPS receivers receive the correction information with the same antenna, but need to dedicate some reception channels just for that (such fancy GPS receivers may advertise 50-60 channels,  or more, not 8-10!!!). And of course it must be purpose-built for this functionality - apparently the SirfStarIII chipset has it built-in, for example. And the software must manage all of that, of course!

I have also heard that the WAAS/EGNOS correction information can also be downloaded via Internet. This is similar in principal to A-GPS, but especially for correction information, and not the basic GPS satelite almanac. Of course, those functions could be cumulative, with both the almanac (A-GPS) and also correction information (EGNOS, but via &quot;SISNet&quot; infortaion via Internet, and via satelite). I am speculating here, as I have not yet found any device that uses these 2 possibilities together.

Hope that helps!

Please, if you find any information about EGNOS-enabled Android devices, either &quot;standard&quot; via satelite or &quot;cheating&quot; via Internet: please let me know. I&#039;m hoping to find a reasonably priced solution, with good accuracy, so that I can do good mapping with just my own telephone (which is always in my pocket, and so always available...).

Best regards,
Neil Dewhurst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I just came across your GPS accuracy test, and thought that I should warn you: The A-GPS function allows the GPS satelite almanac to be pre-loaded via Internet. There may also be an update to the real-time-clock (using NTP via Internet, this is optional).</p>
<p>The net result is that the GPS receiver will be able to immediately interpret the signal from any satelites that it can receive, knowing already there exact positioning information. So that there is no need to first download this &#8220;satelite almanac&#8221; information (from the best available signal) &#8211; which is the normal &#8220;cold start&#8221; procedure. Having a (reasonably) accurate time can also help, marginally, although of course the GPS receiver will end up calculating the really-really-really-accurate time during its &#8220;fix&#8221; procedure.</p>
<p>So the bottom line is: using A-GPS should drastically reduce the time-to-first-fix, meaning that the time-to-fix will be both short and predictable. Thats all. The accuracy is really effected, at least not once the fix has maintained for a short time already.</p>
<p>Other systems allow to improve on GPS accuracy, both by correcting actual positioning errors of the GPS satelites themselves, and also with some information about environmental propogation (air conditions), although this is locally variable and so the relevance of those propgation informations depends on proximity to the correction source.</p>
<p>DGPS (Differential GPS) uses ground based long-wave transmitters to broadcast correction information around a local area (ocean coastline typically), meaning that a seperate and very different antenna is required (large physically, due to &#8220;long&#8221; radio waves, as there are no miracles involved).</p>
<p>WAAS (Wide Area Argmentation System =&gt; North American) and EGNOS (European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service =&gt; European, like it says) relay the correction information via geo-synchronous satelites, and thus also use similar frequency bands to the GPS satelites themselves, meaning that WAAS-enabled and/or EGNOS-enabled GPS receivers receive the correction information with the same antenna, but need to dedicate some reception channels just for that (such fancy GPS receivers may advertise 50-60 channels,  or more, not 8-10!!!). And of course it must be purpose-built for this functionality &#8211; apparently the SirfStarIII chipset has it built-in, for example. And the software must manage all of that, of course!</p>
<p>I have also heard that the WAAS/EGNOS correction information can also be downloaded via Internet. This is similar in principal to A-GPS, but especially for correction information, and not the basic GPS satelite almanac. Of course, those functions could be cumulative, with both the almanac (A-GPS) and also correction information (EGNOS, but via &#8220;SISNet&#8221; infortaion via Internet, and via satelite). I am speculating here, as I have not yet found any device that uses these 2 possibilities together.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Please, if you find any information about EGNOS-enabled Android devices, either &#8220;standard&#8221; via satelite or &#8220;cheating&#8221; via Internet: please let me know. I&#8217;m hoping to find a reasonably priced solution, with good accuracy, so that I can do good mapping with just my own telephone (which is always in my pocket, and so always available&#8230;).</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Neil Dewhurst.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discovery: New project with Mill Road Cemetery in Cambridge by Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=638&#038;cpage=1#comment-2356</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that looks like an exciting project and a great use for technology. Would love to see how it all turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that looks like an exciting project and a great use for technology. Would love to see how it all turns out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GPS accuracy on Android phones by Corso Android</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=466&#038;cpage=1#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>Corso Android</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dr Mike Dodd for your research. In normal GPS units used in power system protection systems having the accuracy of -+ 5m. with my knowledge they are the most accurate GPS ever. But knowing about 2-3m accuracy on Androids  amazed me..Thanks..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dr Mike Dodd for your research. In normal GPS units used in power system protection systems having the accuracy of -+ 5m. with my knowledge they are the most accurate GPS ever. But knowing about 2-3m accuracy on Androids  amazed me..Thanks..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Video Streaming with Bambuser,  part 2 by Interested to stream your event(s) online? &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=167&#038;cpage=1#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Interested to stream your event(s) online? &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Regarding Bambuser mobile streaming. http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=167 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Regarding Bambuser mobile streaming. <a href="http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=167" rel="nofollow" >http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=167</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on GPS Accuracy repeated tests with and without internet access by aprimo lead management software</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=585&#038;cpage=1#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>aprimo lead management software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that you can do it without internet access. Now all that&#039;s left is to get a solar powered one that way you don&#039;t  have to worry about running out of batteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know that you can do it without internet access. Now all that&#8217;s left is to get a solar powered one that way you don&#8217;t  have to worry about running out of batteries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GPS accuracy testing at 0 degrees East by ck tang</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=404&#038;cpage=1#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>ck tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 11:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article ,great job. Keep up posting those info.
&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.geotab.com&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GPS tracking&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article ,great job. Keep up posting those info.<br />
<a href='http://www.geotab.com' rel="nofollow">GPS tracking</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on 1st OTIH Field Trials by Discovery: New project with Mill Road Cemetery in Cambridge &#124; Out There and In Here</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=307&#038;cpage=1#comment-1238</link>
		<dc:creator>Discovery: New project with Mill Road Cemetery in Cambridge &#124; Out There and In Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the knowledge gained from our previous trials, we are planning a new iteration of the OTIH system with a different collaborative activity. This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the knowledge gained from our previous trials, we are planning a new iteration of the OTIH system with a different collaborative activity. This [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Appropriate technology. by jim</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a stamp and coin collector. I carry the ViTiny PRO10 digital microscope with me all the time in case I encounter a coin or stamp that I want look at a little closer or record and image. I think it would work well for your purpose.

ViTny PRO10 digital microscope features: Digital Camera: 2M pixels; Photo Resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels, JPG file; Video Resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels, AVI file; TV Image Output: MP4 file; Web CAM Function

I put the link to my digital microscope website in my signature if you would like more info

thanks jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a stamp and coin collector. I carry the ViTiny PRO10 digital microscope with me all the time in case I encounter a coin or stamp that I want look at a little closer or record and image. I think it would work well for your purpose.</p>
<p>ViTny PRO10 digital microscope features: Digital Camera: 2M pixels; Photo Resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels, JPG file; Video Resolution: 1600 x 1200 pixels, AVI file; TV Image Output: MP4 file; Web CAM Function</p>
<p>I put the link to my digital microscope website in my signature if you would like more info</p>
<p>thanks jim</p>
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		<title>Comment on GPS accuracy testing at 0 degrees East by Mark Gaved</title>
		<link>http://www.open.ac.uk/blogs/otih/?p=404&#038;cpage=1#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gaved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating post. Lots of great info to digest here. Really interested to hear the big metal line in Greenwich might not be where I thought it should be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating post. Lots of great info to digest here. Really interested to hear the big metal line in Greenwich might not be where I thought it should be!</p>
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