Hi everyone An interesting topic on the environment was mentioned by my tutor at the tutorial i attended on monday(DD100 COURSE) in not so sunny Leicester (Its flipping freezing me duck!!)
SarahL
- Sat, 13/12/2008 - 19:42
Oh Dear!! *hangs head in shame* I apparently need 2.16 planets myself. It's the phones and camera Christmas presents that did it! (And I don't think they counted the Blackpool illuminations my kids are in the process of hanging around the house)
stevec - Sat, 13/12/2008 - 23:40
We don't need more planets. We need to use the Earth's resources more respectfully!
aps1956
- Sun, 14/12/2008 - 10:28
I think that the results need to be taken in context - the calculator only looks at certain key issues. There are many items that it does not take in account and it puts weight on certain areas that will skew the results.
Having said that, it is clear that the current consumption level is unsustainable. There are also some serious political issues that need to be addressed, many of which are not even being discussed.
pjr278
- Tue, 16/12/2008 - 17:46
I like the comment that is made in film the 'Matrix', that man is like a virus, therefore will colonise as many planets as it can get its hands on ... so the more the merrier
Ellya
- Wed, 17/12/2008 - 18:22
I wish we as a planet concentrated more sustainability and worried less about CO2 then maybe we wouldn't need more than one planet.
I think when oil and fresh water start to run seriously low, global warming will take a back seat for sure!
iAeris
- Sun, 11/01/2009 - 00:07
I would question how the results are calculated, as well as the fact that the questionaire is structuring the outcome, rather than ascertaining the actual facts
However, it may have pointed out that more could be done by the state and individuals. For example seeking realistic and rewarding methods of implementing good practices into lifestyles and economies...
There are other cleaner ways of going about things, but, money and power are curently the primary part of the equation...Although when refering to power I dont just mean what leaders or elitists do, but also what we the general public do as well.
For me there a dimention to our reality which is harsh, in which there is too much focus on the monetary terms of economies. Institutionally and as individuals, we need think about results of our actions, and seek to apply some responsibility to one another. I think if we apply such knowledge with others that we apply, we could be resolving part of our environmental and societal issues.
Jinni
- Wed, 01/04/2009 - 23:02
1.65 - get in there
AlanSmith
- Mon, 06/04/2009 - 17:05
Oh dear - 4.24 planets!
I think my holdiday to New Zealand and Australia in January pushed my total up somewhat even though I counted them as being European (I live in Thailand). It seems that if you fly a lot, you are going to have a high score regardless of what else you do. Having said that, I'm off to Kuala Lumpur for 2 days from Friday before going on to Langkawi for 8 days. I then return to Bangkok via Kuala Lumpur. The airport at Bangkok is 1 1/2 hours away by taxi from where I live (about £20 each way).
The website asked about heating your home. I don't need heating and use fans rather than airconditioning most of the time. My monthly water and electric bills usually come to a bit less than 1,000 baht (currently £20) so I'm not energy wasteful. I use energy saving lightbulbs where I can.
Alan
bearsome
- Mon, 06/04/2009 - 17:29
That website gives an idea, but it's so imcomplete, it's almost worthless. We (2 of us) live at just over 2 planets level. We'd like to reduce that, but it's almost impossible. The only thing we could possibly improve is having cavity wall insulation. For older folk, bungalows are ideal,and they come detached! We don;'t travel far,but trains don't exist here and,being in a rural community,even bus travel is usually highly impractical. This island has the lowest employment rate in the UK. Although local produce is available (and we buy it whenever possible),it is very expensive,and organic is even dearer. There's no hope whatsoever of the majority of people here being able to buy at such prices. Plus, of course,the website would have us live without dairy produce. For a start,that would give a highly undesirable diet,especially for kids and,in a rural area,how many people would that put out of work? Yes, food for thought,but not a lot else.
gawain
- Sat, 18/04/2009 - 22:11
What we really need is to encounter a planet with limitless raw materials to sell to us, and limitless demand for earth-made products for us to sell to them. If the inhabitants of that planet also have a few thousand banking consultants to lend to us, that would be really cool!
;-)
Tantoflex
- Mon, 20/04/2009 - 16:34
1.59
I thought this was outrageuos - I think having a home heated by Economy 7 electricity accounted for a whopping 28%.
But I have to say the how they calculate things would be interesting to know.
Let me state I am no eco warrior I am a) poor (or have lived in abject poverty for a considerable time) b)an old fashioned tight -arse.
Hence I ride a bike everywhere - I could have never have afforded to drive never mind take the bus to work.
I shop local becasue I hate supermarkets & don't value the quality of their produce.
I don't have a car, foreign holidays, broadband, laptop, TV, consumer goods, central heating - yet still I am apparently an absorbitent overconsumer !! : )
bearsome
- Mon, 20/04/2009 - 18:44
It's pretty ridiculous really! it was 'how much do you spend on pets?' that got me. Anything between 0 and £100 is the lowest choice, so that includes anyone who doesn't have pets.
AlanSmith
- Wed, 22/04/2009 - 17:49
There is an option "I don't have a pet.", which is just as well as pets are banned where I live.
I challenge anyone to come out with a score of less than 1 planet. I managed a score of 1.42 planets by fabricating my answers. Even keeping a terraced house at a temperature of between 14 and 17 degrees didn't help.
I have a ceiling fan operating just now and it's still 30 degrees (Celsius) in my living room.
In the last 12 months, I have visited Ubon Ratchathani - an hour's flight from Bangkok, flown back to Scotland via Dubai about 24 hours in total, been chauffeur driven for a bit over 2 hours courtesy of Emirates, plus an hour on a train. Then in January, I visited Auckland, Christchurch, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane - about 28 hours or so flying time in total. I have just returned from Malaysia - Kuala Lumpur for 2 days and then Langkawi for 8 days or about 6 hours flying.
Unless you like the idea of having cold water mixed with talc plus other unknown ingredients such as urine thrown over you, anybody with any sense leaves Thailand for the duration of their New Year celebrations. In most parts of the country, this only lasts 3 days but where I stay it goes on for a whole week. Fortunately, I missed the state of emergency that was declared for where I live due to the cancellation of the ASEAN summit, which is another story.
One of the advantages of living in Thailand, apart from the obvious, is that Singapore is only 2 1/2 hours away by plane, Kuala Lumpur is 2 hours away, Siam Reap (for Angkor Wat) is only an hour away etc.
Alan
drawl
- Thu, 08/10/2009 - 16:02
2.91 planets? - I don't drive, haven't flown anywhere in the last year, don't use a bus, recycle everything, my washing machine's been broke for a year. I need 2.91 planets for breathing and keeping warm. My gosh I'd blow the planet up if I indulged.
Oh Dear!! *hangs head in shame* I apparently need 2.16 planets myself. It's the phones and camera Christmas presents that did it! (And I don't think they counted the Blackpool illuminations my kids are in the process of hanging around the house)
We don't need more planets. We need to use the Earth's resources more respectfully!
I think that the results need to be taken in context - the calculator only looks at certain key issues. There are many items that it does not take in account and it puts weight on certain areas that will skew the results.
Having said that, it is clear that the current consumption level is unsustainable. There are also some serious political issues that need to be addressed, many of which are not even being discussed.
I like the comment that is made in film the 'Matrix', that man is like a virus, therefore will colonise as many planets as it can get its hands on ... so the more the merrier
I wish we as a planet concentrated more sustainability and worried less about CO2 then maybe we wouldn't need more than one planet.
I think when oil and fresh water start to run seriously low, global warming will take a back seat for sure!
I would question how the results are calculated, as well as the fact that the questionaire is structuring the outcome, rather than ascertaining the actual facts
However, it may have pointed out that more could be done by the state and individuals. For example seeking realistic and rewarding methods of implementing good practices into lifestyles and economies...
There are other cleaner ways of going about things, but, money and power are curently the primary part of the equation...Although when refering to power I dont just mean what leaders or elitists do, but also what we the general public do as well.
For me there a dimention to our reality which is harsh, in which there is too much focus on the monetary terms of economies. Institutionally and as individuals, we need think about results of our actions, and seek to apply some responsibility to one another. I think if we apply such knowledge with others that we apply, we could be resolving part of our environmental and societal issues.
1.65 - get in there
Oh dear - 4.24 planets!
I think my holdiday to New Zealand and Australia in January pushed my total up somewhat even though I counted them as being European (I live in Thailand). It seems that if you fly a lot, you are going to have a high score regardless of what else you do. Having said that, I'm off to Kuala Lumpur for 2 days from Friday before going on to Langkawi for 8 days. I then return to Bangkok via Kuala Lumpur. The airport at Bangkok is 1 1/2 hours away by taxi from where I live (about £20 each way).
The website asked about heating your home. I don't need heating and use fans rather than airconditioning most of the time. My monthly water and electric bills usually come to a bit less than 1,000 baht (currently £20) so I'm not energy wasteful. I use energy saving lightbulbs where I can.
Alan
That website gives an idea, but it's so imcomplete, it's almost worthless. We (2 of us) live at just over 2 planets level. We'd like to reduce that, but it's almost impossible. The only thing we could possibly improve is having cavity wall insulation. For older folk, bungalows are ideal,and they come detached! We don;'t travel far,but trains don't exist here and,being in a rural community,even bus travel is usually highly impractical. This island has the lowest employment rate in the UK. Although local produce is available (and we buy it whenever possible),it is very expensive,and organic is even dearer. There's no hope whatsoever of the majority of people here being able to buy at such prices. Plus, of course,the website would have us live without dairy produce. For a start,that would give a highly undesirable diet,especially for kids and,in a rural area,how many people would that put out of work? Yes, food for thought,but not a lot else.
What we really need is to encounter a planet with limitless raw materials to sell to us, and limitless demand for earth-made products for us to sell to them. If the inhabitants of that planet also have a few thousand banking consultants to lend to us, that would be really cool!
;-)
1.59
I thought this was outrageuos - I think having a home heated by Economy 7 electricity accounted for a whopping 28%.
But I have to say the how they calculate things would be interesting to know.
Let me state I am no eco warrior I am a) poor (or have lived in abject poverty for a considerable time) b)an old fashioned tight -arse.
Hence I ride a bike everywhere - I could have never have afforded to drive never mind take the bus to work.
I shop local becasue I hate supermarkets & don't value the quality of their produce.
I don't have a car, foreign holidays, broadband, laptop, TV, consumer goods, central heating - yet still I am apparently an absorbitent overconsumer !! : )
It's pretty ridiculous really! it was 'how much do you spend on pets?' that got me. Anything between 0 and £100 is the lowest choice, so that includes anyone who doesn't have pets.
There is an option "I don't have a pet.", which is just as well as pets are banned where I live.
I challenge anyone to come out with a score of less than 1 planet. I managed a score of 1.42 planets by fabricating my answers. Even keeping a terraced house at a temperature of between 14 and 17 degrees didn't help.
I have a ceiling fan operating just now and it's still 30 degrees (Celsius) in my living room.
In the last 12 months, I have visited Ubon Ratchathani - an hour's flight from Bangkok, flown back to Scotland via Dubai about 24 hours in total, been chauffeur driven for a bit over 2 hours courtesy of Emirates, plus an hour on a train. Then in January, I visited Auckland, Christchurch, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane - about 28 hours or so flying time in total. I have just returned from Malaysia - Kuala Lumpur for 2 days and then Langkawi for 8 days or about 6 hours flying.
Unless you like the idea of having cold water mixed with talc plus other unknown ingredients such as urine thrown over you, anybody with any sense leaves Thailand for the duration of their New Year celebrations. In most parts of the country, this only lasts 3 days but where I stay it goes on for a whole week. Fortunately, I missed the state of emergency that was declared for where I live due to the cancellation of the ASEAN summit, which is another story.
One of the advantages of living in Thailand, apart from the obvious, is that Singapore is only 2 1/2 hours away by plane, Kuala Lumpur is 2 hours away, Siam Reap (for Angkor Wat) is only an hour away etc.
Alan
2.91 planets? - I don't drive, haven't flown anywhere in the last year, don't use a bus, recycle everything, my washing machine's been broke for a year. I need 2.91 planets for breathing and keeping warm. My gosh I'd blow the planet up if I indulged.