{"id":21286,"date":"2022-05-27T17:09:03","date_gmt":"2022-05-27T16:09:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ounews.co\/?p=21286"},"modified":"2022-05-27T17:09:03","modified_gmt":"2022-05-27T16:09:03","slug":"prehistoric-planet-tv-show-asked-us-to-explore-what-weather-the-dinosaurs-lived-through","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/science-mct\/science-environment\/prehistoric-planet-tv-show-asked-us-to-explore-what-weather-the-dinosaurs-lived-through\/","title":{"rendered":"Prehistoric Planet: TV show asked us to explore what weather the dinosaurs lived\u00a0through"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/robert-spicer-1348295\">Robert Spicer <\/a>from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/the-open-university-748\">The Open University<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alex-farnsworth-174386\">Alex Farnsworth <\/a>from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-bristol-1211\">University of Bristol<\/a> and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/paul-valdes-1348294\">Paul Valdes <\/a>from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-bristol-1211\">University of Bristol <\/a>write for <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> <\/em> about the new TV series, <a href=\"https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/gb\/show\/prehistoric-planet\/\">Prehistoric Planet<\/a>.<\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure>When conjuring up images of when dinosaurs ruled the planet we often think of hot and humid landscapes in a world very different from our own. However, the new TV series <a href=\"https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/gb\/show\/prehistoric-planet\/\">Prehistoric Planet<\/a>, narrated by Sir David Attenborough, shows dinosaurs living and indeed thriving in many types of environments, including colder regions where snowstorms, freezing fog and sea-ice were commonplace.<\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure>When the show\u2019s producers first approached us to help understand the kinds of weather and environment that dinosaurs lived in before being wiped out around 66 million years ago, it prompted us to tackle a problem that has existed in palaeoclimate modelling for decades. That was, when scientists like us used computers to simulate, or \u201cmodel\u201d, the climate of prehistoric Earth, the models tended to make the poles much colder than evidence from fossils and rocks suggested they had actually been.<\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure>For the TV series, not only have we improved our models, but we have run the computer programmes for longer than anybody else has ever done to get the models as close to ancient \u201creality\u201d as possible.<\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"align-center zoomable\">\n<div style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=clip\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465524\/original\/file-20220526-16-et19ii.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"337\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Prehistoric Planet depicts CGI dinosaurs based on the latest research. AppleTV+, CC BY-NC-SA.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The producers, the BBC\u2019s Natural History Unit, needed to know about the weather so they could film \u201creal world\u201d locations similar to those that existed in the past where dinosaurs lived. But most of what we know about the climate that long ago comes from indirect \u201cproxy\u201d evidence, such as leaf fossils and traces of certain chemicals in rocks, which can only reconstruct the average climate over decades or centuries. This is where the narrative of a much hotter and more humid <a href=\"https:\/\/www.science.org\/doi\/10.1126\/science.aay3701\">Cretaceous world<\/a> comes from.<\/p>\n<p>This narrative isn\u2019t exactly wrong, but it doesn\u2019t tell the whole story since weather and climate behave differently. For instance, even in today\u2019s warming world a place like Texas, largely hot and humid, recently experienced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/world-us-canada-56076686\">widespread snowfall<\/a>. Geologists a million years from now will spot the sudden global warming \u2013 but not the freak snowstorm. Nonetheless, modelling the the prehistoric equivalent of these snowstorms is important since we know warmer worlds will experience <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/sr15\/chapter\/spm\/\">greater weather extremes<\/a>. And these extremes will have largely determined which regions were completely inhospitable to dinosaurs.<\/figure>\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/3E0qdExbLTs?wmode=transparent&amp;start=0\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span class=\"caption\">Surface wind speed and precipitation through a typical year 69m years ago. An index of 1 means no visibility beyond 10 metres.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2>How do we know what the weather was like?<\/h2>\n<p>Unfortunately, although fossils give us many clues as to past climate, most cannot directly tell us what the weather was on a day to day basis.<\/p>\n<p>So, for a given place on Earth, how do we know what the weather was on, say, May 27 some 66 million years ago? To do this we need to employ a computer simulation of the climate, similar to the ones used to look at future climate change today. These models are based on <a href=\"https:\/\/gmd.copernicus.org\/articles\/10\/3715\/2017\/\">fundamental physical and biological processes<\/a> which remain constant with time. It is therefore possible to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pnas.org\/doi\/abs\/10.1073\/pnas.2006087117\">adjust them for ancient worlds<\/a>, even if we don\u2019t know precise details like where or how high the mountains were, or exactly how much carbon dioxide was in the atmosphere.<\/p>\n<p>We can then check these models using some of the ancient climate proxies, such as fossilised leaves, coral or rocks which contain traces of what conditions were like at the time. If our model matches up with the proxies \u2013 and it did \u2013 then we can be confident it is simulating typical weather at the time.<\/p>\n<p>So what did we learn from modelling the climate of 66m years ago?<\/p>\n<p>Our model found there would have been intense blizzards in Antarctica, for instance, \u201ccategory six\u201d hurricanes (something we are likely to see in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2018\/sep\/15\/hurricane-category-6-this-is-how-world-ends-book-climate-change\">our lifetimes<\/a>) buffeting the mid and low latitudes and extensive, ever present, fog banks creating murky winters under polar cloud caps.<\/p>\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/ju-_qf8HCmg?wmode=transparent&amp;start=156\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">In a warmer world the water cycle is intensified over the poles. This meant more water in the air, and large parts of the planet would have been very foggy almost all the time (Source: modelling work by the authors)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This doesn\u2019t immediately sound like a dinosaur-friendly environment. However, the old misconception that dinosaurs were cold blooded, thus requiring a warm climate for survival has for the most part already been dismissed. The new paradigm is that <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/dinosaurs-how-our-understanding-of-what-they-looked-like-keeps-changing-158937\">dinosaurs were warm blooded<\/a>, and could to some extent regulate their internal temperature, like mammals do today.<\/p>\n<p>This would be essential to survive large swings in temperature, driven by varied weather patterns, particularly in the polar regions. Our modelling therefore backs up recent fossil discoveries which show that some dinosaur species were cold-adapted, could see in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smithsonianmag.com\/science-nature\/how-dinosaurs-thrived-snow-180976435\/#:%7E:text=%E2%80%9CThere%20would%20have%20been%20ice,body%20size%20of%20any%20dinosaur.\">low light conditions<\/a> (useful in those huge fog banks), and thrived year-round near the poles.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-center zoomable\"><figcaption>\n<div style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=clip\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=338&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/465517\/original\/file-20220526-14-l6p8n4.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"Dinosaur in snow\" width=\"600\" height=\"337\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pachyrhinosaurus surviving and thriving. AppleTV+, CC BY-NC-SA.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Prehistoric Planet scenes with the chilly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/watch?v=eQah4McU2ww\"><em>Pachyrhinosaurus<\/em><\/a> were set in Alaska, and demonstrate why the show wanted check its accuracy with climate models. We have an idea what the conditions would have been like there 66m years ago thanks to detailed fossils of plants, dinosaurs and other animals, yet the old models would have predicted intensely-cold and lifeless tundra.<\/p>\n<p>Our model instead matches up with the fossil evidence, and predicts forests right up to the margins of the Arctic Ocean at 82\u00b0N \u2013 much further north than any trees today. In the summer, dinosaur food would have been abundant, but in the long dark winters it would have been more difficult to find, particularly as both fossils and modelling suggests it was so foggy.<\/p>\n<p>Dinosaurs survived for a remarkable 165 million years. <em>Tyrannosaurus Rex<\/em> lived much closer to present day humans than it did to <em>Stegosauruses<\/em>, for instance. They managed to survive so long because they were resilient and adaptable to changeable environmental conditions, much like mammals are today. Our work for Prehistoric Planet shows that they were able to survive through greater extremes in temperature, stormier weather, and more extreme droughts than humans have experienced \u2013 so far.<!-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag. 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More info: https:\/\/theconversation.com\/republishing-guidelines --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alex-farnsworth-174386\">Alex Farnsworth<\/a>, Senior Research Associate in Meteorology, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-bristol-1211\">University of Bristol<\/a><\/em>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/paul-valdes-1348294\">Paul Valdes<\/a>, Professor of Physical Geography, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-bristol-1211\">University of Bristol<\/a><\/em>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/robert-spicer-1348295\">Robert Spicer<\/a>, Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/the-open-university-748\">The Open University<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Read the <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/prehistoric-planet-tv-show-asked-us-to-explore-what-weather-the-dinosaurs-lived-through-183701\">original article<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Spicer from\u00a0The Open University; Alex Farnsworth from\u00a0University of Bristol and\u00a0Paul Valdes from\u00a0University of Bristol write for The Conversation about the new TV series, Prehistoric Planet. When conjuring up images of when dinosaurs ruled the planet we often think of hot and humid landscapes in a world very different from our own. 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