{"id":23947,"date":"2023-09-11T13:51:07","date_gmt":"2023-09-11T12:51:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ounews.co\/?p=23947"},"modified":"2023-09-11T13:51:07","modified_gmt":"2023-09-11T12:51:07","slug":"have-we-really-found-the-first-samples-from-beyond-the-solar-system-the-evidence-is-not-convincing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/science-mct\/have-we-really-found-the-first-samples-from-beyond-the-solar-system-the-evidence-is-not-convincing\/","title":{"rendered":"Have we really found the first samples from beyond the Solar System? The evidence is not convincing"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure><figcaption><strong><a style=\"font-size: 14px;\" href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/monica-grady-125306\">Monica Grady<\/a><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"> is a Professor in Planetary Sciences at <\/span>The Open University:<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Avi Loeb, an astrophysicist at Harvard University in the US, has published a <a href=\"https:\/\/projects.iq.harvard.edu\/galileo\/news\/spherule-analysis-finds-evidence-extrasolar-composition\">press release<\/a> claiming that some of the 700 or so spherical metallic fragments (spherules) <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/physicist-who-found-spherical-meteor-fragments-claims-they-may-come-from-an-alien-spaceship-heres-what-to-make-of-it-209101\">he recovered<\/a> from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, just off the coast of Papua New Guinea, are from beyond the Solar System.<\/p>\n<p>The discovery was quite interesting because, although such spherules are distributed globally, it is not easy to recover them from the depths of the ocean bed \u2013 requiring a dredging operation with a powerful magnet. But Loeb has speculated that the spherules may be related to the passage of an interstellar meteor, IM1, which burned up over the South Pacific Ocean in January, 2014. He has even hypothesised that the spherules are actually debris from an alien spacecraft. I commented at the time that <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/physicist-who-found-spherical-meteor-fragments-claims-they-may-come-from-an-alien-spaceship-heres-what-to-make-of-it-209101\">I\u2019d need firm analytical evidence<\/a> to accept such interpretations.<\/p>\n<p>Loeb has now provided a very <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2308.15623\">detailed set of analytical data<\/a> of 57 spherules in an article submitted to a journal. But it has not yet been subject to the peer review that academics require before they accept research as legitimate. However, the paper has been subject to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Deschscoveries\/status\/1697538023666397513\">much scrutiny<\/a> on social media.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-center \">\n<p><div style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=307&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=307&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=307&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=385&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=385&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/536316\/original\/file-20230707-21-5ea08a.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=385&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"Loeb next to image of spherule\" width=\"600\" height=\"306\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Loeb next to image of spherule. NewsNation\/Youtube, CC BY-SA<\/p><\/div><\/figure>\n<p>Loeb\u2019s analyses were carried out using well known techniques and state-of-the art equipment, so there are no concerns that the analyses are faulty. Indeed, most of the spherules do appear to come from outside our own planet, as shown by their abundances of elements such as nickel, magnesium and manganese, which match those of meteorites.<\/p>\n<p>Such particles are referred to as \u201ccosmic spherules\u201d and normally come from asteroids within our Solar System. Loeb\u2019s material is, in fact, similar in nature to cosmic spherules <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0016703717305495\">that have been found<\/a> in sediments and ice cores.<\/p>\n<p>A few of the spherules stand out because they have more unusual elemental compositions. These are named \u201cBeLaU\u201d particles by Loeb because they are rich in beryllium, lanthanum and uranium. Loeb rules out them being natural, terrestrial material, or extraterrestrial material from within the Solar System, on the basis of their iron isotope compositions. Isotopes are versions of an element with the same number of particles called protons in the nucleus, but different numbers of particles called neutrons, giving them different atomic masses.<\/p>\n<p>His conclusions are a little inconsistent. The BeLaU spherules do indeed have a very different iron isotopic composition from some terrestrial and Solar System bodies, specifically those that have been through the process of melting and cooling as they formed. In other words, they do not match planetary objects, such as the Earth, Mars or the Moon. But that does not rule out their coming from bodies that have not been through a planetary formation process, such as the asteroids from which cosmic spherules originate.<\/p>\n<p>Most cosmic spherules have been produced by ablation, the process by which material is eroded from a surface by friction. The friction is generated by interaction with air as a meteorite passes through the atmosphere at high velocity. This imparts unusual iron isotope compositions to the particles. The BeLaU spherules have iron isotope compositions in the same range as cosmic spherules. This could imply that they are indeed from within the Solar System.<\/p>\n<p>Although Loeb acknowledges this, he still concludes that the BeLaU material has an interstellar origin.<\/p>\n<h2>Other explanations<\/h2>\n<p>It is interesting to join Loeb and speculate on potential origins for the spherules. In his paper, he says the samples \u201ccould have originated from a highly differentiated magma ocean of a planet with an iron core outside the solar system or from more exotic sources\u201d. This is unlikely \u2013 iron meteorites from within the Solar System are the most affected by melting and do not have similar compositions to the BeLaU spherules.<\/p>\n<p>Other possibilities that Loeb considers are supernovas (infinitely hot exploding stars) and cool, luminous stars (known as \u201casymptotic giant branch\u201d stars, where cool is still incredibly hot). A supernova results from the catastrophic implosion of a stellar source, producing bursts of neutrons to form new elements.<\/p>\n<p>The isotopic composition of those elements has been measured in many grains found in meteorites. Such grains are older than the Sun and could be regarded as interstellar. But they differ from the spherules described by Loeb because they are very small \u2013 only a few microns at most. Loeb\u2019s samples are millimetre to centimetre sized.<\/p>\n<p>I have another, equally speculative, suggestion. The Marshall Islands are only a few hundred kilometres or so from the region where Loeb searched. The Islands were the site of <a href=\"https:\/\/ahf.nuclearmuseum.org\/ahf\/location\/marshall-islands\/\">67 nuclear tests<\/a> by the US between 1946 and 1958, causing radiation damage. The spherules could be fallout from these tests \u2013 a type of human-generated supernova.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-center \">\n<p><div style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=450&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=450&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=450&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=566&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=566&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/546216\/original\/file-20230904-15-zdhoxe.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=566&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"Marshall islands nuclear test.\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marshall islands nuclear test. United States Department of Energy<\/p><\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I think there are more analyses that could be done to test Loeb\u2019s hypothesis. For example: look for spherules in the beach sands and ocean floor around Bikini Atoll and Enewetak, where the nuclear tests took place.<\/p>\n<p>Another obvious test is to measure the oxygen isotopic composition of the spherules. This parameter is based on the three stable isotopes of oxygen. The ratios between those can be used to conclusively determine whether material is terrestrial or extraterrestrial.<\/p>\n<p>An oxygen isotope signature can be traced even following weathering and alteration of samples. Similarly, it would be informative to see whether there are gases trapped in the spherules. Analysis of noble gases (especially xenon) in the spherules could indicate if they came from a supernova or other type of star.<\/p>\n<p>Assuming the spherules are not radioactive, I would be happy to facilitate their analysis. Our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/research\/engagement\/facilities\">laboratories at The Open University<\/a> specialise in the analysis of miniscule amounts of extraterrestrial material, specifically in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41550-022-01824-7\">oxygen isotope composition<\/a>. We also have a long history of analysis of <a href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1086\/507176\">xenon in interstellar grains<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I am afraid that I come to the same conclusion that I did last time: Loeb has recovered some interesting particles, but none of the evidence he presents is sufficiently convincing to infer that the materials are either connected with IM1, or are from an alien spaceship.<!-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag. Please DO NOT REMOVE. --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; box-shadow: none !important; margin: 0 !important; max-height: 1px !important; max-width: 1px !important; min-height: 1px !important; min-width: 1px !important; opacity: 0 !important; outline: none !important; padding: 0 !important;\" src=\"https:\/\/counter.theconversation.com\/content\/212789\/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic\" alt=\"The Conversation\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" \/><!-- End of code. If you don't see any code above, please get new code from the Advanced tab after you click the republish button. The page counter does not collect any personal data. More info: https:\/\/theconversation.com\/republishing-guidelines --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/monica-grady-125306\">Monica Grady<\/a>, Professor of Planetary and Space Sciences, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/the-open-university-748\">The Open University<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Read the <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/have-we-really-found-the-first-samples-from-beyond-the-solar-system-the-evidence-is-not-convincing-212789\">original article<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Header image: Shutterstock<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Monica Grady is a Professor in Planetary Sciences at The Open University: Avi Loeb, an astrophysicist at Harvard University in the US, has published a press release claiming that some of the 700 or so spherical metallic fragments (spherules) he recovered from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, just off the coast of Papua New [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":19,"featured_media":23950,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[861,1525,1640],"class_list":["post-23947","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-science-mct","tag-faculty-of-stem","tag-news-home","tag-ou-home"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23947","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/19"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=23947"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23947\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/23950"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=23947"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=23947"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=23947"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}