{"id":276,"date":"2008-10-06T14:32:17","date_gmt":"2008-10-06T14:32:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/?p=276"},"modified":"2008-10-06T14:32:17","modified_gmt":"2008-10-06T14:32:17","slug":"dating-plato","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/?p=276","title":{"rendered":"Dating Plato"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Sometimes citations drive me crazy. I\u2019m just correcting one<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Plato, &amp; Emlyn-Hughes, C. (Eds.). (2005). <em>Early Socratic Dialogues<\/em>. Harmondsworth: Penguin.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Eagle-eyed readers will spot several things wrong with this citation, as my supervisors did. You may have noticed that Emlyn Hughes was probably an unlikely editor of classical philosophy. However, that example of my mind wandering aside, it still doesn\u2019t look good.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">First, there\u2019s the way that EndNote won\u2019t allow me an author to an edited book. So either Plato becomes an editor, or Chris Emlyn-Jones (as he is more accurately styled) becomes an author. The other option is that I remember to correct this manually at the last minute, without giving EndNote a chance to change it.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">And then there\u2019s the date. The implication that Plato wrote up the early Socratic dialogues in 2005 is clearly crazy. On the other hand, (2005 \/ c300BCE) also looks completely wrong. 2005 is probably the accepted way of doing this sort of citation. But I\u2019m not really citing the individual edition; I\u2019m connecting asynchronous dialogue to a long tradition of educational dialogue, which doesn\u2019t work if I only go back three years.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 5pt\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">And don\u2019t even start me on the subject of citing and dating Vygotsky\u2026<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes citations drive me crazy. I\u2019m just correcting one Plato, &amp; Emlyn-Hughes, C. (Eds.). (2005). Early Socratic Dialogues. Harmondsworth: Penguin. Eagle-eyed readers will spot several things wrong with this citation, as my supervisors did. You may have noticed that Emlyn Hughes was probably an unlikely editor of classical philosophy. However, that example of my mind [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-276","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-research-tools"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/276","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=276"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/276\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=276"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=276"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.open.ac.uk\/blogs\/r.m.ferguson\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=276"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}